kolko vas muci
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Stari uporabnik #920
Re: kolko vas muci
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Pa da ponovim za tabo "carpe diem" vsak dan - že vrsto let
Carpe diem ne pomeni dobesedno 'iz dons na jutr'. Ni to isto.
Temveč izkoristi vsak trenutek in uživaj življenje.
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že vrsto let (3x po 7 let)
Pri 21 pa ja - to še gre. Živiš pa pri starših najvrjetneje (oz. študiraš in imaš najet 'flet'; potem se za W občasno vračaš domov) - ker tko še gre pol iz dons na jutr.
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Kam pa pelje človeka, ki kategorično nasprotuje konoplji.
Huh - jest NE nasprotujem konoplji. Še enkrat povem. Opozarjam predvsem na psihiatrične zaplete, ki jih na posamezniku lahko pusti.
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Kdo postavlja cilje, ti?
Oprosti, tega pa ne razumem. Ne razumem v katerem kontekstu si postavil to vprašanje. Torej ne morem odgovorit.
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E ja, na koncu.
Dejte se naučit živet na točki 0. Točka 0 = sedanjost.
Jest sm se opiral na ta tvoja priporočila, ki sm jih razumel kot živet 'iz dons na jutr' - saj le to pomeni živeti na točki 0
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Stari uporabnik #3192
Re: kolko vas muci
Sploh se mi ne zdi off topic, ampak se debata pač razvija v to smer.
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Carpe diem ne pomeni dobesedno 'iz dons na jutr'. Ni to isto.
Temveč izkoristi vsak trenutek in uživaj življenje.
Vem točno kaj pomeni carpe diem (uživaj dan) to je razvidno iz moje trditve, a ne?
Točka 0, pa vsekakor ne pomeni iz dons na juter, ampak samo za dons!
Mato, pa nima smisla, k se mi zdi, da se štekava in to ne bo pripeljalo nikamor.
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Carpe diem ne pomeni dobesedno 'iz dons na jutr'. Ni to isto.
Temveč izkoristi vsak trenutek in uživaj življenje.
Vem točno kaj pomeni carpe diem (uživaj dan) to je razvidno iz moje trditve, a ne?
Točka 0, pa vsekakor ne pomeni iz dons na juter, ampak samo za dons!
Mato, pa nima smisla, k se mi zdi, da se štekava in to ne bo pripeljalo nikamor.
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Stari uporabnik #920
Re: kolko vas muci
Review shows that cannabis use is a risk factor for schizophrenia
Utrecht Tony Sheldon
Public health researchers in the Netherlands now believe that there is "converging evidence" to show that using cannabis is a risk factor for schizophrenia.
Researchers from the Netherlands Institute of Mental Health and Addiction warn that cannabis approximately doubles the risk of schizophrenia and that the risk increases in proportion to the amount of the drug used.
The researchers draw their conclusions from a review of five longitudinal studies recently published in four medical journals, including the British Medical Journal (Nederlands Tijdschrift voor Geneeskunde 2003;44:2178-83).
Data from these studies, which were carried out in the Netherlands, Sweden, New Zealand, and Israel, made it possible to clarify the sequence of events over a long period of time. They discounted the possibility that schizophrenia increases subsequent use of cannabis, the "self medication" hypothesis.
The researchers excluded people with a previous history of psychotic problems from the analysis, and they controlled for the effects of other confounders, such as the use of other drugs. Thus they were able to show the specific influence of cannabis.
The Swedish and Dutch studies also showed that the amount of cannabis used was associated with the risk of schizophrenia, supporting the causal hypothesis.
In the Netherlands five in 10 000 adults a year develop schizophrenia. The researchers say that a conservative estimate based on consistent results is that using cannabis doubles the risk of developing the disease.
They conclude that although the risk may be numerically small it is "serious in clinical terms" and that ignoring the message of the recent research "is not an option."
According to the 2003 national drugs monitor, a systematic collection and analysis of data carried out by the institute, the number of cannabis users in the Netherlands increased from 326 000 in 1997 to 408 000 in 2001.
By the age of 18 years half of Dutch men and a third of Dutch women have used cannabis at least once. Of the people who say that have used it in the past month, half say they have smoked more than five joints.
The researchers accept that epidemiological cohort studies do not offer complete proof, as there may be other underlying social or biological factors.
But a co-author, public health researcher Filip Smit, said that public health officials don’t require the same degree of certainty that scientists do. He said, "From a public health perspective we do not want to take the risk, especially with something as serious as schizophrenia." The institute says its conclusions have implications for health education, and it wants more preventive health projects, especially ones that are geared towards teenagers at school.
The paper has initiated a debate in the Dutch media, where a spokesman for the institute said, "Soft drugs have lost their innocence."
VIR
8.11.2003
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Podoben topik v droge strokovno - o raznih težavah pri uživanju marihuane
Težave pri kajenju marihuane
Utrecht Tony Sheldon
Public health researchers in the Netherlands now believe that there is "converging evidence" to show that using cannabis is a risk factor for schizophrenia.
Researchers from the Netherlands Institute of Mental Health and Addiction warn that cannabis approximately doubles the risk of schizophrenia and that the risk increases in proportion to the amount of the drug used.
The researchers draw their conclusions from a review of five longitudinal studies recently published in four medical journals, including the British Medical Journal (Nederlands Tijdschrift voor Geneeskunde 2003;44:2178-83).
Data from these studies, which were carried out in the Netherlands, Sweden, New Zealand, and Israel, made it possible to clarify the sequence of events over a long period of time. They discounted the possibility that schizophrenia increases subsequent use of cannabis, the "self medication" hypothesis.
The researchers excluded people with a previous history of psychotic problems from the analysis, and they controlled for the effects of other confounders, such as the use of other drugs. Thus they were able to show the specific influence of cannabis.
The Swedish and Dutch studies also showed that the amount of cannabis used was associated with the risk of schizophrenia, supporting the causal hypothesis.
In the Netherlands five in 10 000 adults a year develop schizophrenia. The researchers say that a conservative estimate based on consistent results is that using cannabis doubles the risk of developing the disease.
They conclude that although the risk may be numerically small it is "serious in clinical terms" and that ignoring the message of the recent research "is not an option."
According to the 2003 national drugs monitor, a systematic collection and analysis of data carried out by the institute, the number of cannabis users in the Netherlands increased from 326 000 in 1997 to 408 000 in 2001.
By the age of 18 years half of Dutch men and a third of Dutch women have used cannabis at least once. Of the people who say that have used it in the past month, half say they have smoked more than five joints.
The researchers accept that epidemiological cohort studies do not offer complete proof, as there may be other underlying social or biological factors.
But a co-author, public health researcher Filip Smit, said that public health officials don’t require the same degree of certainty that scientists do. He said, "From a public health perspective we do not want to take the risk, especially with something as serious as schizophrenia." The institute says its conclusions have implications for health education, and it wants more preventive health projects, especially ones that are geared towards teenagers at school.
The paper has initiated a debate in the Dutch media, where a spokesman for the institute said, "Soft drugs have lost their innocence."
VIR
8.11.2003
___________________________________________________________________
Podoben topik v droge strokovno - o raznih težavah pri uživanju marihuane
Težave pri kajenju marihuane
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Stari uporabnik #238
Re: kolko vas muci
končno vas je še nekaj. Včasih sem sam tako zagovarjal zeleno pa so me skoraj ubili. Točno tako je trava ti ne more nič če jo znaš obvladat, tako je itak z vsako drogo. jaz tudi še zmeraj kadim vsaki dan in en malo pa zaradi tega nimam nobenih težav. Pa sploh ne razmišljam, da bi imel kakšne težave zaradi trave. je pač kot je in to je to. Brez težav gradim naprej na karieri življenju in odnosih.
Priznam da so me droge odpeljale ampak počasi sem se lahko postavil spet nazaj na noge in ostala je v večini samo trava, tako kot v starih dobrih časih in problemi so odšli tako kot so prišli, samo moral sem se spravit v red in zaradi tega nisem rabil odnehat kadit.
TRAVA JE ZAKON!!!!!!
Priznam da so me droge odpeljale ampak počasi sem se lahko postavil spet nazaj na noge in ostala je v večini samo trava, tako kot v starih dobrih časih in problemi so odšli tako kot so prišli, samo moral sem se spravit v red in zaradi tega nisem rabil odnehat kadit.
TRAVA JE ZAKON!!!!!!
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Stari uporabnik #1616
Re: kolko vas muci
ko skadim mi prtitiska v glavi na vse pretege. prav zanimivo dogaja. skadit morem obvezno če ne sim čist nor. trenutno kadim in sem miren.
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Stari uporabnik #1976
Re: kolko vas muci
js bi se to omenil, da pa opazim eno veliko spremembo in mogoce jo tudi vi vsi, ki skadite malo vec gudre....
in to je, da sem bolj odporen na vsa ta virusna obolenja... naj povem, da me zelo malo bolezni napade... ta vzrok sem nasel v tem, da so itak vse bolezni nekak povezane s clovesko psiho in ker sem pac zelo malo obremenjen, sem posledicno tudi veliko manj bolan... z raznimi gripami, in ostalim sranjem, ki se pojavlja v teh zimskih dneh... opazate isto?
in to je, da sem bolj odporen na vsa ta virusna obolenja... naj povem, da me zelo malo bolezni napade... ta vzrok sem nasel v tem, da so itak vse bolezni nekak povezane s clovesko psiho in ker sem pac zelo malo obremenjen, sem posledicno tudi veliko manj bolan... z raznimi gripami, in ostalim sranjem, ki se pojavlja v teh zimskih dneh... opazate isto?
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Stari uporabnik #1616
Re: kolko vas muci
vse je lepo in zadovljivo, težave se pojavljajo potem, ko skadiš. uf kak mi je čudno.
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Stari uporabnik #1758
Re: kolko vas muci
Oh fantje, posploševat ni nikoli dobro. Vsak posameznik se na uživanje Marjane odziva drugače, kot je vsepovsod. Imamo pač srečo, da nismo mi tisti, ki nam povzroča hude posledice. Je pa vsak, ki je veliko uporabljal Zeleno, že imel kako bad iskušnjo a ne? No v splošnem gledano, to niti ni tako nedolžna zadevca, če se je ne naučiš obvladat, pa tut, ko že misliš, da si zmagu te kdaj pa kdaj preseneti. Js sem vidi svašta, ka je delalo z ljudmi, ja tudi z mano. Če bi moral s parimi besedami opisat ganjo, bi jo s sledečimi:
1. Sproščujoča
2. Asocialna
3. če ne rata sproščujoče, se plus spremeni v minus in postane paranojična
No ta tretja točka je dokaj zaskrbljujoča, ker se ji je žal težko upreti. Se ji pa da, ampak moje mnenje je še vedno, da temu ni kos vsak, oz. bi bolj zadel če bi reku, da tega je sposobn mali krog uživalcev. No upam, da jih je med nami čimveč. Če pa temu nisi kos, pa preostane samo prenehanje uživanja, če si želimo dobro. Sebe bom počasi pričel prištevati mednje, ampak res počasi. Ne kadim še tako dolgo recimo ene 12 let, pa nekje po parih letih, si bom upal rečt, da sem jo obvladal do točke, kjer mi nudi v vseh pogledih užitek, to pomeni, da mi nikol nebo vrglo na bad. Komaj čakam
1. Sproščujoča
2. Asocialna
3. če ne rata sproščujoče, se plus spremeni v minus in postane paranojična
No ta tretja točka je dokaj zaskrbljujoča, ker se ji je žal težko upreti. Se ji pa da, ampak moje mnenje je še vedno, da temu ni kos vsak, oz. bi bolj zadel če bi reku, da tega je sposobn mali krog uživalcev. No upam, da jih je med nami čimveč. Če pa temu nisi kos, pa preostane samo prenehanje uživanja, če si želimo dobro. Sebe bom počasi pričel prištevati mednje, ampak res počasi. Ne kadim še tako dolgo recimo ene 12 let, pa nekje po parih letih, si bom upal rečt, da sem jo obvladal do točke, kjer mi nudi v vseh pogledih užitek, to pomeni, da mi nikol nebo vrglo na bad. Komaj čakam
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Stari uporabnik #3593
Re: kolko vas muci
En joint (solaka) al dva na 4-5 dni je zame najboljš.
Enkrat na leto 7 dni intenzivnega puhanja.
In to je to
Enkrat na leto 7 dni intenzivnega puhanja.
In to je to
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Stari uporabnik #3192
Re: kolko vas muci
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En joint (solaka) al dva na 4-5 dni je zame najboljš.
Enkrat na leto 7 dni intenzivnega puhanja.
To je v primeru, ko nimaš stalno svoje konoplje pri sebi...
Jaz sem že nič kolikokrat reku, danes pa ne bom....aha.
Psihična odvisnost.... PRIZNAM.
En joint (solaka) al dva na 4-5 dni je zame najboljš.
Enkrat na leto 7 dni intenzivnega puhanja.
To je v primeru, ko nimaš stalno svoje konoplje pri sebi...
Jaz sem že nič kolikokrat reku, danes pa ne bom....aha.
Psihična odvisnost.... PRIZNAM.