Pot as Tough on Lungs as Tobacco
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Stari uporabnik #763
Pot as Tough on Lungs as Tobacco
Pot as Tough on Lungs as Tobacco
Today's Cannabis Stronger, With More Carcinogens, Than in the 1960s
By Jeanie Davis
Reviewed By Michael Smith, MD
WebMD Medical News
Nov. 12, 2002 -- Strong words of warning for those who smoke pot: British researchers have found that smoking pure cannabis harms your lungs as much as tobacco does.
Smoking three cannabis joints a day causes the same damage to the lining of the airways as 20 cigarettes. In fact, the tar from a joint contains 50% more cancer-causing substances than tobacco, says the report, published by the British Lung Foundation.
"These statistics will come as a surprise to many people, especially those who choose to smoke cannabis rather than tobacco in the belief that it is 'safer' for them," says Mark Britton, MD, chairman of the British Lung Foundation.
The report surveys all current medical and scientific research into the direct effects of smoking marijuana -- both alone and with tobacco -- on the smoker's respiratory health.
Among the findings:
The cannabis smoked today is much more potent than that smoked in the 1960s -- more than 15 times as potent.
People who smoke cannabis have significantly more respiratory symptoms such as chronic cough and mucus production, wheezing, and acute bronchitis.
Smoking three or four cannabis cigarettes a day causes the same degree of damage to the lining of the airways as 20 or more tobacco cigarettes a day.
Cannabis tends to be smoked in a way that increases the puff volume by two-thirds and the depth of inhalation by one-third. There is an average fourfold longer breath-holding time with cannabis than with tobacco. This means that there is a greater respiratory burden of carbon monoxide and smoke particulates such as tar than when smoking a similar quantity of tobacco.
As with tobacco smoking, the research also shows a possible link between cannabis smoking and emphysema.
A survey earlier this year showed that 79% of children believe that cannabis was 'safe,' according to the British Lung Foundation's news release. Only 2% understood correctly that there are health risks associated with smoking pot.
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SOURCES: News release, British Lung Foundation • Mark Britton, MD, chairman, British Lung Foundation.
© 2002 WebMD Inc. All rights reserved.
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http://content.health.msn.com/content/article/1685.53652
Today's Cannabis Stronger, With More Carcinogens, Than in the 1960s
By Jeanie Davis
Reviewed By Michael Smith, MD
WebMD Medical News
Nov. 12, 2002 -- Strong words of warning for those who smoke pot: British researchers have found that smoking pure cannabis harms your lungs as much as tobacco does.
Smoking three cannabis joints a day causes the same damage to the lining of the airways as 20 cigarettes. In fact, the tar from a joint contains 50% more cancer-causing substances than tobacco, says the report, published by the British Lung Foundation.
"These statistics will come as a surprise to many people, especially those who choose to smoke cannabis rather than tobacco in the belief that it is 'safer' for them," says Mark Britton, MD, chairman of the British Lung Foundation.
The report surveys all current medical and scientific research into the direct effects of smoking marijuana -- both alone and with tobacco -- on the smoker's respiratory health.
Among the findings:
The cannabis smoked today is much more potent than that smoked in the 1960s -- more than 15 times as potent.
People who smoke cannabis have significantly more respiratory symptoms such as chronic cough and mucus production, wheezing, and acute bronchitis.
Smoking three or four cannabis cigarettes a day causes the same degree of damage to the lining of the airways as 20 or more tobacco cigarettes a day.
Cannabis tends to be smoked in a way that increases the puff volume by two-thirds and the depth of inhalation by one-third. There is an average fourfold longer breath-holding time with cannabis than with tobacco. This means that there is a greater respiratory burden of carbon monoxide and smoke particulates such as tar than when smoking a similar quantity of tobacco.
As with tobacco smoking, the research also shows a possible link between cannabis smoking and emphysema.
A survey earlier this year showed that 79% of children believe that cannabis was 'safe,' according to the British Lung Foundation's news release. Only 2% understood correctly that there are health risks associated with smoking pot.
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SOURCES: News release, British Lung Foundation • Mark Britton, MD, chairman, British Lung Foundation.
© 2002 WebMD Inc. All rights reserved.
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http://content.health.msn.com/content/article/1685.53652
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Stari uporabnik #52
Re: Pot as Tough on Lungs as Tobacco
Novica je stara 3 tedne: Kajenje marihuane bolj škodljivo od kajenja tobaka
Na strani Konoplja.org tedensko objavljamo prevedene novice s celega sveta, kakor tudi domace, vkolikor se kaj dogaja. Ce na spletu najdete kaksno novico, preverite ali ta ze obstaja, drugace pa jo posljite na info@konoplja.org, da jo prevedemo in objavimo.
V tem postu pa pricakujem odzive oz. razmisljanja na porocilo organizacije British Lung Foundation.
Na strani Konoplja.org tedensko objavljamo prevedene novice s celega sveta, kakor tudi domace, vkolikor se kaj dogaja. Ce na spletu najdete kaksno novico, preverite ali ta ze obstaja, drugace pa jo posljite na info@konoplja.org, da jo prevedemo in objavimo.
V tem postu pa pricakujem odzive oz. razmisljanja na porocilo organizacije British Lung Foundation.
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Stari uporabnik #90
Re: Pot as Tough on Lungs as Tobacco
jaz sem prebral ta članek ja, ampak v enem intervjuju nekje na TV sem zasledil da so te rezultati lahko varljivi.
Npr zakaj. Res je da povprečen kadilec marihuane zadrži dim vpljučah dalj časa kod kadilec cigaret. Vsak ne, tudi jaz ne. Pač jadiš baklo isto kor skadiš cigaret. Efekt je še zmer kle.
Po drugi strani pa je zagovornik marihuane v tem intervjuju pojasnil se to zadevo da povprečen kadilec pokadi 20 cigaretov na dan, kar je pribilžno 2 cigareta na uro ali več(če gledamo da se ponoči spi), iz česar sledi da se povprečnemu kadilcu cigaret pljuče nikoli čisto ne znebijo nevarnega dima v pljučah, nakar kadilcu ki uživa marihuano 2x ali 3x dnevno tega dima ni prisotnega v pljučah čez cel dan oz. se pljuča sproti čistijo, ki pa je po besedah tega človeka (ma res se ne spomnim kje in s kom je bil intervju) dost manj škodljivo kot pri kadilcu tobaga z 20+ cigareti na dan.
Bo kaj res na to temo?
Npr zakaj. Res je da povprečen kadilec marihuane zadrži dim vpljučah dalj časa kod kadilec cigaret. Vsak ne, tudi jaz ne. Pač jadiš baklo isto kor skadiš cigaret. Efekt je še zmer kle.
Po drugi strani pa je zagovornik marihuane v tem intervjuju pojasnil se to zadevo da povprečen kadilec pokadi 20 cigaretov na dan, kar je pribilžno 2 cigareta na uro ali več(če gledamo da se ponoči spi), iz česar sledi da se povprečnemu kadilcu cigaret pljuče nikoli čisto ne znebijo nevarnega dima v pljučah, nakar kadilcu ki uživa marihuano 2x ali 3x dnevno tega dima ni prisotnega v pljučah čez cel dan oz. se pljuča sproti čistijo, ki pa je po besedah tega človeka (ma res se ne spomnim kje in s kom je bil intervju) dost manj škodljivo kot pri kadilcu tobaga z 20+ cigareti na dan.
Bo kaj res na to temo?
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Stari uporabnik #716
Re: Pot as Tough on Lungs as Tobacco
Meni se zdi tobak neprimierno bolj škodljiv. Ko sm kadil sem imel probleme z raznimi bronhitisi in težaaev z dihanjem. Zdaj pa sm opustil kajenje in pokadim vsak večer 1 joint in se počutim prav vredu. Se normalno ukvarjam s športom in kondicija mi ni nič upadla. Ko pa sm cigarete kadil pa nisem zmogel Preteči 1km.
Verjetno je pa tudi odvisno od človeka.
lp
Verjetno je pa tudi odvisno od človeka.
lp
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Stari uporabnik #90
Re: Pot as Tough on Lungs as Tobacco
ja mislim da so tisteli učiniki da je cannabis bolj nevaren od cigaretov mišljeni bolj dolgoročno.
Je pa res da so učinki konoplje zdravilni oz. olajševalni pri nekaterih boleznih... Drugače jo verjetno nebi legalizirali v medicinske namene v tokih drzavah.
lp
Je pa res da so učinki konoplje zdravilni oz. olajševalni pri nekaterih boleznih... Drugače jo verjetno nebi legalizirali v medicinske namene v tokih drzavah.
lp
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Stari uporabnik #52
Re: Pot as Tough on Lungs as Tobacco
Marihuana in rak na pljučih. Tema, ki že od nekdaj razburja oba pola debate.
Na posvetu o medicinski uporabi konoplje je dr. Notcutt na predlog enega naših zdravnikov o nadaljnih “nujno potrebnih” laboratorijskih raziskavah konoplje odgovoril:” Konopljo ljudje uporabljajo že tisoče let. V laboratorijih se jo raziskuje že 30 let, dostikrat več, kot se je raziskovalo marsikatero zdravilo na trgu. Mislim, da je skrajni čas, da smo začeli izvajati klinične raziskave.”
Raziskav o konoplji je ogromno. Ampak res ogromno. Dobrih raziskav pa je malo. Po mojem je problem verjetno v tem, da je bila večina raziskav spodbujena in financirana kot orodje politike in njenih ciljev. In zato si korenito nasprotujejo. Nekatere kažejo takšne rezultate, druge popolnoma nasprotne. Kot da niso raziskovali iste droge (glede na raznolikost vrst konoplje po celem svetu je lahko tudi to eden od vzrokov -> ste vedeli, da je vsebnost kanabinoidov v konoplji odvisna od obdobja dneva? npr. jutro/vecer), oziroma so popolnoma različno interpretirali dobljene rezultate.
Kajenje kot administracija katerekoli droge je vsekakor zelo škodljiva oblika vnosa v telo. Gorenje je skupek kemičnih procesov, pri katerih nastaja en kup za telo škodljivih snovi. In z vdihovanjem vseh teh spojin svojemu telesu ne delamo nič dobrega. V veliko raziskavah so dokazali tvorbo rakotvornih spojin pri gorenju marihuane in mislim, da jim ne moremo oporekati. Tudi dejstvo, da kadilci marihuane dim vdihujejo globlje in ga v pljučih zadržujejo dlje, je znano vsem uporabnikom te droge.
A finta je nekje drugje. V nobeni od raziskav niso našli enega uporabnika marihuane, za katerega bi lahko dokazali, da ima raka prav zaradi uporabe te droge. Še več, raziskave, v katerih so popolnoma izločili uporabnike marihuane, ki so sočasno uporabljali tudi alkohol, tobak in nelegalne droge, so pokazale, da se pri uporabnikih marihuane začuda nikoli ne razvije rak. (Marijuana Use and Mortality) Eno udarnejših protivprašanj ameriških aktivistov o raku in marihuani je: “What's the actual body count of cancer victims that used marihuana?”
Na naših straneh imamo že dolgo novico, ki me je, ko sem jo videl prvič, resno začudila (Aktivne snovi v konoplji ciljajo na rakave celice v možganih.). Konoplja zavira razvoj rakavih celic?? V premislek dodajam raziskavo, ki potrjuje zgoraj navedene ugotovitve ga. Piomellijeve (Induction and regulation of the carcinogen-metabolizing enzyme CYP1A1 by marijuana smoke and delta (9)-tetrahydrocannabinol). Izgleda, da endokanabinoidi v naših telesih zavirajo razvoj raka, isto kar ob uporabi marihuane počnejo tudi tudi kanabinoidi. (The endogenous cannabinoid anandamide inhibits human breast cancer cell proliferation)
Vsekakor zelo zanimive študije, katerih nadaljevanje pa po navedbah strokovnjakov ovira pomanjkanje financ.(raje ne komentiram tegale!!!).
Vsekakor dim marihuane draži dihalni sistem in povzroča razvoj obolenj kot so bronhitis ter druga. Vsemu temu se seveda da izogniti z načinom administracije. O tem, da marihuana povzroča raka, pa bi se dalo se debatirati. Sam sem mnenja, da kanabinoidi ne povzročajo raka, obenem pa blažijo učinek rakotvornih spojin v dimu.
Marijuana Unlikely to Cause Head, Neck, or Lung Cancer
Bom pa vsekakor poskrbel za še kakšno bolj strokovno mnenje o tem problemu.
Na posvetu o medicinski uporabi konoplje je dr. Notcutt na predlog enega naših zdravnikov o nadaljnih “nujno potrebnih” laboratorijskih raziskavah konoplje odgovoril:” Konopljo ljudje uporabljajo že tisoče let. V laboratorijih se jo raziskuje že 30 let, dostikrat več, kot se je raziskovalo marsikatero zdravilo na trgu. Mislim, da je skrajni čas, da smo začeli izvajati klinične raziskave.”
Raziskav o konoplji je ogromno. Ampak res ogromno. Dobrih raziskav pa je malo. Po mojem je problem verjetno v tem, da je bila večina raziskav spodbujena in financirana kot orodje politike in njenih ciljev. In zato si korenito nasprotujejo. Nekatere kažejo takšne rezultate, druge popolnoma nasprotne. Kot da niso raziskovali iste droge (glede na raznolikost vrst konoplje po celem svetu je lahko tudi to eden od vzrokov -> ste vedeli, da je vsebnost kanabinoidov v konoplji odvisna od obdobja dneva? npr. jutro/vecer), oziroma so popolnoma različno interpretirali dobljene rezultate.
Kajenje kot administracija katerekoli droge je vsekakor zelo škodljiva oblika vnosa v telo. Gorenje je skupek kemičnih procesov, pri katerih nastaja en kup za telo škodljivih snovi. In z vdihovanjem vseh teh spojin svojemu telesu ne delamo nič dobrega. V veliko raziskavah so dokazali tvorbo rakotvornih spojin pri gorenju marihuane in mislim, da jim ne moremo oporekati. Tudi dejstvo, da kadilci marihuane dim vdihujejo globlje in ga v pljučih zadržujejo dlje, je znano vsem uporabnikom te droge.
A finta je nekje drugje. V nobeni od raziskav niso našli enega uporabnika marihuane, za katerega bi lahko dokazali, da ima raka prav zaradi uporabe te droge. Še več, raziskave, v katerih so popolnoma izločili uporabnike marihuane, ki so sočasno uporabljali tudi alkohol, tobak in nelegalne droge, so pokazale, da se pri uporabnikih marihuane začuda nikoli ne razvije rak. (Marijuana Use and Mortality) Eno udarnejših protivprašanj ameriških aktivistov o raku in marihuani je: “What's the actual body count of cancer victims that used marihuana?”
Na naših straneh imamo že dolgo novico, ki me je, ko sem jo videl prvič, resno začudila (Aktivne snovi v konoplji ciljajo na rakave celice v možganih.). Konoplja zavira razvoj rakavih celic?? V premislek dodajam raziskavo, ki potrjuje zgoraj navedene ugotovitve ga. Piomellijeve (Induction and regulation of the carcinogen-metabolizing enzyme CYP1A1 by marijuana smoke and delta (9)-tetrahydrocannabinol). Izgleda, da endokanabinoidi v naših telesih zavirajo razvoj raka, isto kar ob uporabi marihuane počnejo tudi tudi kanabinoidi. (The endogenous cannabinoid anandamide inhibits human breast cancer cell proliferation)
Vsekakor zelo zanimive študije, katerih nadaljevanje pa po navedbah strokovnjakov ovira pomanjkanje financ.(raje ne komentiram tegale!!!).
Vsekakor dim marihuane draži dihalni sistem in povzroča razvoj obolenj kot so bronhitis ter druga. Vsemu temu se seveda da izogniti z načinom administracije. O tem, da marihuana povzroča raka, pa bi se dalo se debatirati. Sam sem mnenja, da kanabinoidi ne povzročajo raka, obenem pa blažijo učinek rakotvornih spojin v dimu.
Marijuana Unlikely to Cause Head, Neck, or Lung Cancer
Bom pa vsekakor poskrbel za še kakšno bolj strokovno mnenje o tem problemu.
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Stari uporabnik #52
Re: Pot as Tough on Lungs as Tobacco
Nonmelanoma skin cancer is one of the most common malignancies in humans. Different therapeutic strategies for the treatment of these tumors are currently being investigated. Given the growth-inhibiting effects of cannabinoids on gliomas and the wide tissue distribution of the two subtypes of cannabinoid receptors (CB1 and CB2), we studied the potential utility of these compounds in anti–skin tumor therapy. Here we show that the CB1 and the CB2 receptor are expressed in normal skin and skin tumors of mice and humans. In cell culture experiments pharmacological activation of cannabinoid receptors induced the apoptotic death of tumorigenic epidermal cells, whereas the viability of nontransformed epidermal cells remained unaffected. Local administration of the mixed CB1/CB2 agonist WIN-55,212-2 or the selective CB2 agonist JWH-133 induced a considerable growth inhibition of malignant tumors generated by inoculation of epidermal tumor cells into nude mice. Cannabinoid-treated tumors showed an increased number of apoptotic cells. This was accompanied by impairment of tumor vascularization, as determined by altered blood vessel morphology and decreased expression of proangiogenic factors (VEGF, placental growth factor, and angiopoietin 2). Abrogation of EGF-R function was also observed in cannabinoid-treated tumors. These results support a new therapeutic approach for the treatment of skin tumors.
Inhibition of skin tumor growth and angiogenesis in vivo by activation of cannabinoid receptors
Inhibition of skin tumor growth and angiogenesis in vivo by activation of cannabinoid receptors